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SHO with Performance Package - Question on Tires

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SHO with Performance Package - Question on Tires

Post by rbenedetti » Wed Feb 13, 2013 8:11 pm

Gang,

Hoping that someone might have some answers to help me move forward with a buying decision.

I live in New Jersey, where the winters are not too bad, but we do get snow and ice, and I am wondering if anyone has the performance package and continues to use the F1 summer performance tires all year round. I am tempted to give it a shot, but would like some feedback.

Also wondering if anyone knows if the 'tire mobility kit' can be removed from the spare tire well, so that a bona fide spare tire (donut) and jack can be put in the car - I am not a big of not having a spare.

Thanks much!


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Re: SHO with Performance Package - Question on Tires

Post by esfoad » Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:10 am

Don't know about your spare tire question but I can say that our Corvette with F1 summer tires gets really squirrelly when the temperature drops below 45 degrees. So I bought rims and snow tires from Tirerack and the car performs great during the winter. Now we don't drive it in deep snow but just the feeling of the summer rubber breaking loose scared me. I run all season tires on my SHO. Originally the Michelins that Ford provided and now Cooper Zeon RS-3A's. No problems with either all season tire. Just got back from a 2 week trip to Montreal where they had 2 snow storms while we were there and the car performed great. I live in NW New Jersey. My thoughts are for the $1500-$1600 investment in wheels/tires or the $800 investment in tires alone, why risk a $40000+ car?
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Re: SHO with Performance Package - Question on Tires

Post by rbenedetti » Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:37 am

Thanks much. Glad to hear that all season tires did the trick for the SHO. I am loathe to swap between summer and winter tires, and am not the type to push the SHO to the limits on handling, so I think this will be a good compromise. Thanks again.

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Re: SHO with Performance Package - Question on Tires

Post by I.T.guy » Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:45 am

When I ordered my SHO, I researched the Performance Pkg. For me, the soft rubber performance tires which has a shorter miles rating didn't seem practical. Here in Michigan, the SHO had no problems recently with 4-5 inches of snow. The AWD plays a more important part in bad weather conditions than the tires. Of course having softer rubber helps, but those tires only have about a 24,000 mile life if I'm not mistaken. Plus I wanted the adaptive cruise control which is not available with the Performance Pkg. My $.02
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Re: SHO with Performance Package - Question on Tires

Post by Webmaster » Thu Feb 14, 2013 12:35 pm

I.T.guy wrote:...The AWD plays a more important part in bad weather conditions than the tires...
Yes, but only for accelerating, not braking :wink:

I use dedicated winter tires up here, NW of you. They definitely help with braking and cornering. And since they're on my FWD car they do help with accelerating too.
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Re: SHO with Performance Package - Question on Tires

Post by HWYStar » Sun Mar 17, 2013 2:07 pm

I have a 2012 SHO with the performance package and just went through a winter in Massachusetts with the summer tires. I wouldn't recommend it, and I'm planning to get all season tires in the fall. Still doing research on brands. I'd be interested to hear recommendations from other members.

Your concern regarding the tire mobility versus the spare tire is legitimate. One of my tires got a split in it (from a pothole?) and the tire mobility kit was useless. The car had to be transported to the repair shop and I had to buy a new tire and wait for it to get replaced. The styrofoam in the spare tire area of the trunk can be removed and a jack kit and compact spare can be easily inserted. All the notches and bolts to hold the jack are there. I found the jack kit and a compact spare on ebay and I sleep better knowing I have a spare tire. Anybody want to buy a tire mobility kit?
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Re: SHO with Performance Package - Question on Tires

Post by Orlaco » Sun Mar 17, 2013 5:31 pm

As previously mentioned, although briefly, in this thread.... ....summer tires are not good in the snow...but ALSO (and maybe more importantly) not good in the cold.

Summer performance tires will actually have a flat spot from being parked in the cold overnight until they get warm enough (after driving) to regain proper shape. That ain't good.

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Re: SHO with Performance Package - Question on Tires

Post by esfoad » Mon Mar 18, 2013 3:20 pm

I am running Cooper RSW-A's. I replaced the factory Michelins with these at 49K miles. I now have 55K miles and have gone through the winter. These are quieter than the Michelins. Otherwise the traction and overall feel are the same. THese will probably not last as long but they were less money. One reason I went for these was because the Michelins had been on factory backorder for months and were not available. That may be different now. FWIW these are well rated on Tirerack but so are the Michelins.
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Re: SHO with Performance Package - Question on Tires

Post by HWYStar » Sat Mar 23, 2013 7:29 pm

I"ve heard and read good things about the Continental Extreme Contact DWS as an all season replacement for my summer tires. I'm planning to wait until fall, but those are the front runners now.
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Re: SHO with Performance Package - Question on Tires

Post by Boggus » Sat Mar 23, 2013 9:43 pm

You can retrofit your spare or lack thereof with a full sized spare.
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Re: SHO with Performance Package - Question on Tires

Post by esfoad » Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:47 am

HWYStar wrote:I"ve heard and read good things about the Continental Extreme Contact DWS as an all season replacement for my summer tires. I'm planning to wait until fall, but those are the front runners now.
I've also heard good things about those. I went with Cooper Zeon RS-3A's. Got such a good deal and the reviews were excellent. They are also great. I see that the Contis are available for my 2009 Vette. I may do that with the 540 wear rating. I have snows on rims for her and swap them in Nov and April but the all season Contis would be safer when it gets cold. The factory Goodyears are scary when the temp drops below 45 degrees. Good Luck with your choice.
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Re: SHO with Performance Package - Question on Tires

Post by gbriank » Wed Mar 27, 2013 4:35 am

Live in Dallas and just bought my SHO (first Ford product). Thoughts on the F1's here?

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Re: SHO with Performance Package - Question on Tires

Post by gbriank » Wed Mar 27, 2013 4:42 am

HWYStar wrote:I have a 2012 SHO with the performance package and just went through a winter in Massachusetts with the summer tires. I wouldn't recommend it, and I'm planning to get all season tires in the fall. Still doing research on brands. I'd be interested to hear recommendations from other members.

Your concern regarding the tire mobility versus the spare tire is legitimate. One of my tires got a split in it (from a pothole?) and the tire mobility kit was useless. The car had to be transported to the repair shop and I had to buy a new tire and wait for it to get replaced. The styrofoam in the spare tire area of the trunk can be removed and a jack kit and compact spare can be easily inserted. All the notches and bolts to hold the jack are there. I found the jack kit and a compact spare on ebay and I sleep better knowing I have a spare tire. Anybody want to buy a tire mobility kit?
Do you have the Ebay link for the spare tire/jack combo??

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Re: SHO with Performance Package - Question on Tires

Post by HWYStar » Wed Mar 27, 2013 11:09 pm

I got the tire and jack kit separately. You'll have to search to see what's available. This compact spare would probably fit.

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Re: SHO with Performance Package - Question on Tires

Post by gbriank » Thu Mar 28, 2013 12:36 am

So, I did a little digging and found the following:

RIM: http://www.texasmotorsfordparts.com/par ... mCallOut=4
TIRE: https://www.shopmaxxis.com/b2c/

Size T155/70R18 112M M9500N (COMPACT SPARE TIRE)

The rim is $128.53 and the tire $149. This doesn't include shipping and handling nor the equipment to secure the rim to the body. Sheesh! Why doesn't Ford make this an option?

As a side note, buying a full-sized rim and tire is a little over $300. Is the well inside the Taurus deep enough to store this? May go this route, as there are no spare tire limitations (speed, distance, placement).

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Re: SHO with Performance Package - Question on Tires

Post by Remford » Mon Jun 10, 2013 5:26 pm

The biggest favor you can do yourself is rip-off the garbage rubber from the factory and replace them with Continental ExtremeContact DWS tires. You'll have performance, silence and road manners like you never believed possible.

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Re: SHO with Performance Package - Question on Tires

Post by SLO4SHO » Mon Jul 01, 2013 8:52 pm

I bought a set of dedicated Pirelli Snow tires mounted on cheap 17" rims for the winter (from tirerack and cost about $800). The winter tires will last quite a few winters, will stay on the car for about 5 months, so I will extend the life of my pure summer performance tires. I recommend going this route as you will naturally extend the life of your summer tires, and have extra confidence in snow/ice and can sustain temperatures of -20.

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Re: SHO with Performance Package - Question on Tires

Post by HWYStar » Tue Aug 27, 2013 7:23 pm

Remford wrote:The biggest favor you can do yourself is rip-off the garbage rubber from the factory and replace them with Continental ExtremeContact DWS tires. You'll have performance, silence and road manners like you never believed possible.


I just had another summer tire get a split in it. That's two in 17K miles. Thankfully I had a spare tire that got me home. I'm getting four new Conti DWS tires this week.
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Re: SHO with Performance Package - Question on Tires

Post by esfoad » Wed Aug 28, 2013 2:38 pm

I have Conti DWS on my Vette. They are great!
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Re: SHO with Performance Package - Question on Tires

Post by Hindzy » Thu Aug 29, 2013 8:38 pm

Appreciate the tips... Fyi... when I picked up my SHO this summer, the Ford Service Mgr specifically recommended Continental Extreme Contact DWS.
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